tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304235862479840318.post4523474041057320089..comments2024-01-08T04:16:25.601-08:00Comments on Ché (What You Call Your) Pasa: Electoral MythsChé Pasahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01926630891287949373noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304235862479840318.post-79038106945087696852016-11-28T05:39:12.396-08:002016-11-28T05:39:12.396-08:00It is quite an "interesting" situation, ...It is quite an "interesting" situation, isn't it? Whether he realizes it or not, Trump (or his surrogate -- Kellyanne?) actually are calling for a nationwide recount, because there is no other way to come close to resolving the questions -- no matter who is asking them. Both major candidates made a huge Thing of foreign interference and/or election rigging during the campaign. He and She both made this bed. Jill is merely making them lie in it.<br /><br />I don't know what to make of Jill's Russian interference claims, except she might be throwing it right back at Hillary -- put up or shut up. I don't personally believe there was any more than the usual interference from abroad, and I never put any credence in Hillary's (and the "17 Security Agency") claims about it. It was such an exact replay of the lies leading up to the Iraq invasion.<br /><br />But whatever the case about any of that, it looks like at least one of the three recounts Jill called for are going to go ahead, even if the whole thing becomes a chaotic shit-show, pardon my French. You can bet Trump's people will be throwing grenades the while.<br /><br />Strap in for a rough ride.Ché Pasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01926630891287949373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2304235862479840318.post-41087814596320822022016-11-28T03:12:57.946-08:002016-11-28T03:12:57.946-08:00Che,
You write: "One of the clarifying facto...Che,<br /><br />You write: "One of the clarifying factors to emerge from the chaos so far is that all the hooey from both Trump and Clinton about 'rigged elections' and 'foreign interference' prior to Nov 8 has suddenly become 'inoperative.' They now both deny there is any evidence of rigging or foreign interference, despite their absolute certainty of it prior to Election Day."<br /><br />Well, perhaps Clinton isn't specifying rigging or foreign interference; she isn't speaking about anything at all right now. All statements from the Clinton side, such as admitting they are now joining in the recount effort, are coming from surrogates.<br /><br />However, Jill Stein gave as one of her primary reasons in asking for a recount the "influence and meddling of a foreign government in our electoral process", and she specifically and unequivocally stated that Russia was the culprit. It was right there on her website in the section dealing with the recount demand, with details of the "proof" (some professor from some right-wing publication made some wild-ass assertions which she quoted as her proof), and she repeated the accusation of "foreign interference from Russia" in an interview immediately after she began petitioning for a recount.<br /><br />I was shocked and dismayed to read this anti-Russia propaganda shit from her, and it makes me question her motives, quite frankly. I voted for her, too.<br /><br />And Trump has just made the claim that the reason Clinton is ahead in the popular vote is because "millions of people voted illegally". So he is asserting voter fraud and vote rigging now, too. Of course, he's too stupid to see that his own claim that millions voted illegally is ipso facto grounds for a recount, but you'll never hear me accuse him of higher intelligence.<br /><br />Anyway, just sayin'. Rest of your article is bang-on.<br /><br />-Teriteri49noreply@blogger.com